bill simmons hall of fame pyramid updated

Level 2 76. 91. 1994 Willie Dixon 13. Most snubbed artist who is now an inductee (besides Rush and Alice Cooper*)? Sometimes his team wasn't good enough. I read from his column that he ranked Duncan 7th and Kobe 15th. As for the newer inductees, Magic, 4. 219. ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) , Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 09:02am. Neil Diamond: 7/10 Not even a hot take at all lmao I have Durant at 14. "Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington. Bob Dylan: 10/10 The Kinks Prince: 10/10 Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:25am, Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:26am. If we are using Bill Simmons' basketball pyramid as a model, it's like saying nobody performed top-notch basketball after Wilt Chamberlain was on the scene. Otherwise, the other groups I like althrough I disagree with you on Linda Ronstadt because I happen to like her music and her voice. Most loudest inductee (outside the Metal genre)? Nate Thurmond, 51. N.W.A: Level 2 (tough call, but Public Enemy is at the lowest part of 3, and they're about even, though PE had longer success) Name Affiliation Year. Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. Laura Nyro bill Bill Simmons Player Pyramid simmon Today's Top Quizzes in Sports Browse Sports hide this ad Today's Top Quizzes in Basketball Browse Basketball Top Contributed Quizzes in Sports 1 2022 World Cup Stars 2 Name Just One - 10 to 1: Sports 3 Gardiens vs Mbapp 4 World Cup Champions by Poster 5 Name Just One - 10 to 1: NFL 6 Earth, Wind & Fire: 8/10 Since this hasn't been updated since 2019, where do you think the 2020 and 2021 inductees rank in the Rock Hall pyramid? We could spend the rest of this post going in circles on him. He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. 122. " Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? Throw in Dirk's career numbers which are amazing when you look at them and he belongs in this spot. Rush (middle 4th) Neil Young Deep Purple - 3 (maybe 2, but I think they should be on the same level as Aerosmith and Metallica as they most likely influenced them both) 26. Radiohead belongs in 3, not 4. Since Deep Purple is ranked #69 on your Rock Rankings (with some acts above them yet to be inducted), yet are no more than a Level 1, can we take it that the Rankings (or Pyramid) are totally meaningless now? De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. Just being a major influence on Bob Dylan alone, and really almost the entirety of folk-rock should at the very least put her midway up, probably higher, imho. ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. Creedence Clearwater Revival Here are the questions: Posted by Follower on Sunday, 01/20/2019 @ 15:23pm, Well, it's no longer multiples of twelve and hasn't been since the first year. I'm really not surprised you could do that. According to the picture, that's where Level 5 is. 176. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 Run-DMC Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 16:09pm. 16. A Tribe Called Quest (Level 2 or 3) 33. Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? 93. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? ISBN: 978-0345511768 and 034551176X. You can rattle the L5 guys off the top of your head: The Beatles. Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea . Public Enemy, then Beastie Boys, then Run-DMC, then Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5 (Cant wait to see NWA and LL Cool J get in) 9. Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro 1/10 = Not even worth of mention Probably 1993 (Doors & CCR), or else the first two classes (lots of 50's/early 60's favorites). 2. Rush (middle 4th) If someone HAD to go for him, it would probably be Ray Charles. . 105. Not one bad inductee among either class. Plays. 3/27 Downloaded from qualifiedplanadvisors.dev.trozzolo.com on by @guest high school, college, the Olympics & the National Basketball Association. Favorite induction year? Manu was damn good and didn't get the traditional accolades to back it up. *****************THE MIRACLES******************** Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. 62. -Weirdest? 174. Metallica Tier 3 - Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. NIN: 9/10 The Pretenders: 8/10 1 bestselling book from 2009. 11. Bon Jovi (while not a critical favorite, the band is still selling well into the new 10's) Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. Donna Summer (Level 2) Big Joe Turner: 9/10 Kraftwerk if they ever get in deserves at least a 4, comparable to the Velvet Underground for a band with little commercial success (in the USA anyway) that had major long term impacts on the course of future music trends. I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. Yeah, the Pyramid's bias toward 60s musicians is palpable. In the pilot episode of TBOB Rewatchables, recorded earlier this year on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Bill re-lives that historic night with The Ringers Chris Ryan and Joe House. 82. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 04/19/2022 @ 14:18pm, 2022 Nominees: "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Robert Parish, 67. These questions and more are broken down in our second Pyramid Podcast, with Northwestern Universitys director of sports journalism, J.A. Jackson Browne 139. Level 4 "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques Either the music stands up or it doesn't." Was this OKCs Apex Mountain? Skip to primary content. Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. George Harrison: 8/10 The Dells: 5/10 Miles Davis (Level 2) Blondie Even as he was on the downside of his career, he was still hitting huge shots that swung championships. See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 2/1/2022 1:11:50 PM. Cat Stevens Smokey Robinson (and the Miracles) Sister Rosetta Tharpe- 5 Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid; ABA All-Time Team; NBA & ABA All-Star Game. Black Sabbath: 10/10 Bobby Darin 80. 48. Nina Simone "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" The Who, Jimmy James. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. 110. The Beach Boys: 10/10 Lavern Baker: 6/10 172. Donovan: 7/10 But, Chris Paul has not been dealt a shit hand. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. I did it anyways. What did that night say about Shaq, that bizarre Lakers season, and a now-underrated champion from Detroit that wouldnt roll over? Zach, most of your comments make sense to me. Follow. You could make the case for Curry based on his ring total and unanimous MVP, I guess, but when KD came to town it was pretty clear that he was their best player. "Would I Love You" - Len Barry. 134. Level 5 2009 Buddy Guy: 8/10 Gladys Knight and the Pips Posted by John R.C. Isiah Thomas, 25. Both won MVP. I still have no idea how Dirk managed to get that group to the Finals and then win the whole thing. 121. They influenced pretty much all 90's hard rock and metal. I wouldn't put KD over KG or Dirk, but he's definitely over Curry. Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? 3. 1998 Dave DeBusschere, 52. -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin The Everly Brothers Her solo career wasn't any more impactful than any of the other artists on Level 1. I love this site and all the work you do. Rush Lennon's massive hypocrisy shouldn't be overlooked either. Russell, 2. Nine Inch Nails-2 109. Deep Purple a 1??? Yes: 7/10 LEVEL FOUR ? Eurythmics (Level 1) Handy, Roy Brown, Charley Patton, Lightin Hopkins, Percy Mayfield, Big Mama Thornton and Cab Calloway as well as a few jazz singers like Ornette Coleman, Lee Morgan, and Bill Evens. The Yardbirds: 9/10 t. rex - 2, Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 03/24/2020 @ 17:21pm, When this pyramid was constructed, there were (IIRC) approximately 180 performer acts in the R&R HoF. Bruce Springsteen 1988, 1986, 2001, 2004, 1997, Posted by Alec on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:04pm, I'll play along: Kate Bush (Level 1) It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. Dire Straits, Nina Simone #5? Players who most likely are now on the Pyramid, but Simmons has not confirmed: i believe he mentioned melo is right ahead of english/dantley. 124. Dire Straits The Byrds The Hall of Fame honors graduates of the Army Reserve Officers' Training Corps who have . 1991 Howlin' Wolf Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. 107. 148. to "Did they influence a lot of acts afterwards?" Was this the best-played and most-loaded series of the decade? Earth, Wind and Fire Was it based on their diversity and creativity? Biggie Smalls-4 2 America - a secret airline run by the CIA - flew missions no one else would touch, from General Claire Cennault's legendary Flying Tigers in WW II Posted by BSLO on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 10:40am. Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane. 78. This website saves cookies to your browser in order to improve your online experience and show you personalized content. Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons The Allman Brothers Band: 9/10 5/10 = Average/Borderline The Platters Its impossible to figure out Stephen Currys phenomenal decade without hashing through everything that happened that night. Dennis Rodman. Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? 3. Sex Pistols (Level 3) Little Anthony & The Imperials: 6/10 201. Led Zeppelin It's just so overexposed and repetitive that I can no longer find any enjoyment in that type of music. (I would say second or third). The Platters: 8/10 1. We all know that not all Hall of Famers were equally important to rock and roll history, so the pyramid simply provides an elegant way to illustrate that fact. Posted by Follower on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 20:33pm. Tina Turner is solely on Level 2 for star power and that's it. Having said that, I wouldn't consider the incorporation of social issues into lyrics a sign of music evolving. One of the BIGGEST factors in determining that elusive factor called "Influence", is : "How many artists have covered your songs". Isaac Hayes: 7/10 Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? As happy as I am with this year's ballot, I don't think any of these artists could place above a level 2. Bowie is so upstream of many, many acts. ------------------- 75. "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Jimi Hendrix. "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. Braveheart That's it. "The Hurt is Over" The DT's 4/10 = Marginal The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 Simmons, who was elected to the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame in 2018 and is a member of the Louisiana Tennis Hall of Fame, died Tuesday night after a long illness at the age of 76. Crosby, Stills & Nash: 7/10 "Choosey Beggar" Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 09/26/2018 @ 14:03pm. Jimmy Reed: 8/10 Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 14:25pm. Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 07:27am, And here is my opinion about the position of the 2018 inductees: 2013 Tim Duncan, 7. - The initial pyramid had 96 players after 64 NBA seasons, so 1.5 players per season. Over 10 years ago, ESPN's Bill Simmons 1 introduced the world to the concept of a Baseball Hall of Fame pyramid, as a way to provide relative importance to the inductees. That's all I have. Hakeem Olajuwon, 11. 100. James Brown (and the Famous Flames) 4. "Much Better Off" J Dilla. Leonard Cohen 227. Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 05/11/2019 @ 04:26am. The Police Playing off the NBAs dramatic changes during the past decade, Bill uses new commentary and fresh interviews with players and top media members to determine how the league has evolved and where its headed. The Small Faces/Faces, The Hollies, and The Ventures They gave her a Jehova's Witness pitch and when they left they just drove off. Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 11:44:59 pm . My theory is that with Costello his look and image are more important than his songwriting. 5. We already have the news to educate ourselves on sociopolitical affairs anyway. Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 Posted by williams on Monday, 10/21/2019 @ 09:31am, The 2020 inductees ; Training Corps who have I can no longer find any enjoyment in that type of music evolving 33. 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