Michael Collins is a newcomer to the market place. [6] In 1855, his son Sir James Power, laid the foundation stone for the O'Connell Monument,[3] and in 1859 became High Sheriff of Dublin. Found it very smooth to the tongue. Bushmills is produced from 100% malted barley and grain whiskey (which it receives from the Midleton Distillery in Co. Cork where Jameson is made). The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. Question, in the US, is Powers readily available? As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! . Also, I understand that corned beef and cabbage is not a traditional Irish meal but it is a traditional Irish American Meal, particularly in the North East. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Makes me want to get on a plane to Dublin immediately., Its like loving the smell of a sharpie or gasoline, in small way Kelsey Crenshaw. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. : ). Tullamore Dew, rendered in most branding as Tullamore D.E.W. What is the lore and legend and reputation of Tullamore Dew? My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. I sincerely doubt that there are too many Irish Catholics who care about the religion attached to what they drink. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! To inject religion into the discussion demeans the very simple fact that whiskey has no religion despite the understandable biases of the past. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. I just brought some Tyrconnell 10-year port cask aged home from duty free it is delicious. Very sweet (like the inside of a burnt marshmellow). Theres Whiskey and a prod or a catholic will drink it either way. Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. Literal Meaning. Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. Tullamore Dew, Powers, Paddy, Midleton Very Rare, Green Spot, and . Next Post Xante Pear Liqueur (Not A Sex Toy). Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. [3], As the distillery grew, so too did the stature of the family. Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. Class dismissed. [8] After expansion, output at the distillery rose to 700,000 gallons per annum, and by the 1880s, had reached about 900,000 gallons per annum, at which point the distillery covered over six acres of central Dublin, and had a staff of about 300 people.[3][1]. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. Corvallisbarman is half right. So by your logic it is fair to say that Every time you raise a glass of American Bourbon you are in essence raising a glass to an Native American losing his land (and in MOST cases his life) to British/American rule! There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. Drink which ever you palette desires!! Bushmills is very proud of its long Irish heritage and yes its head distiller is catholic but if someone wants to boycott this whiskey, not for taste, but simply because it is situated in an area populated mainly by Protestants then they are the one with the problem. Thanks, Mike. The cheap Evan Williams Black Label at half the price (in the USA)has more taste and more of a kick. Clicking on a product takes you to Amazon, which helps me keep this site running, so thank you in advance! To my certain knowledge and as am employee of Bushmills (and a Catholic by birth, but an atheist by choice), you are entirely mistaken. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. Your email address will not be published. [8] This was a notable departure for the firm, as for many years the big Dublin distilling dynasties had shunned the use of Coffey stills, questioning if their output, grain whiskey, could even be termed whiskey. One good friend turned to me and chuckled. I lived through this and lost people to it, and it saddens me to read this. Oh, by the way, John Jameson was a protestant Scottish planter in Ireland, so shouldnt you be boycotting his whiskey also? Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Comment There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. I visited Bushmills Distillery, and they were bottling both Bushmills and Jameson in the same facility!! Bushmills, in turn, supplies the Midleton Distillery with single malt, which they use to make Tullamore DEW. Catholics represented the unstable Republican persona and therefore the company hired few people from the catholic areas. In return, Bushmills receives grain whiskey from both Midleton & Cooley. Why even Arthur Guinness was a prod. The Ambassador had both Jameson and Bushmills on offer. But in Falls Road and Shankill Road it is not really about religion, is it? No matter where it is produced. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. Tullamore Dew is aged in ex-bourbon and ex-sherry cask type, whereas Jameson is aged in oak barrels. There was a big banner from the 80s in one of our meeting rooms that read boycott bushmills they discriminate because they were from the north they didnt use to hire catholic workers. Who really cares. Memories. With regard to Powers Gold Label: I bought a bottle last week after reading about how decent a drink it was. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. So bottoms up. The worst mistake I made was ordering a Bass Ale in PJ Horgans on Queens Blvd. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. Most protestant in my area have a real problem with Catholics. and my green on July 12th. And, many thanks to (nearly) all of those who offered comments. Yep, he was referring to a certain product from Bushmills.. In 1886, John Power & Son began bottling their own whiskey, rather than following the practice customary at the time, of selling whiskey directly to merchants and bonders who would bottle it themselves. Cant wait to find out. Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. The town of Bushmills is a black hole. One happens to be located in a majority Protestant area and one located in a majority Catholic area, big deal! Seriously (though I actually was), I very much appreciated the original article, as I had had often wondered about that Jamesons = Catholic; Bushmills = Protestant thing. bushmills / black bush or a shirley bassey as we call it is by far thwe superior whisky in the lower price range. in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. Robber jumps out of an alley, holds up a gun, and says, Are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Man says, Neither, Im a jew. Robber thinks for a moment, says, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?, are you a Protestant or a Catholic? It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. Then I must be the luckiest Arab in all o Ireland!. Wow, this was such a fun read through. @Allen: Thats just my point. Bushmills was my first taste of Irish Whiskey. Who do I believe, the man who raised me, or some drunk I met in a bar? Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. You may see the Co. Offaly whiskey grow even more now that William Grant & Sons owns it, and will be building the new distillery soon. The plantation of Ulster started in 1609, and BTW that very same King (James I) planted the Jamestown settlement in Virginia two year previous in 1607. Went on the Bushmills tour in November 2015. Irish whiskey comes in two forms, Catholic and Protestant. I said, so youre Protestant? The whole time I was in Dublin (or even while I was Belfast) I never once heard anyone say anything about any whiskey having a religion. Youd be hard to convince me it is 40 proof, much less 80. I was aware of the obvious problem with the claim that Bushmills is 'protestant whisky' but this gives a great insight. I was told by one Irishman the RedBreast would change my life and another one told me that The Irishman Founders Reserve would do the same. As a Scotsman living in Scotland, Id say I f youre worried about the religion of your whiskey then perhaps you shouldnt be drinking. Have an OHaras Red and a Jamison on me. Still love it. Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? Only if you are an idiot! If you had and asked for Bushmills, you would have received a long stare and possibly been asked to leave. Not sure what Guinness has to do with this, but your claim goes against everything we were taught about him, but maybe history is just whitewashed for us Yanks. To complicate the issue even more, Bushmills has been owned by a big drinks corporation since 1972 (first Irish Distillers, now Diageo), but before then it was owned by a Scottish Jew! best bang for your buck for a sipping whisky. 2. Im sorry but if not drinking a brand of whiskey for some very spurious political reason, and claiming drinking Bushmills somehow condones an Irishman losing his land seems pretty idiotic to me. And, fact fans, the space-age Middleton distillery in the far south makes the neutral alcohol for the blends produced at Bushmills up North. Regards, BTW, while traveling through a Protestant section of Belfast, our tour guide (who had a joke or good story for most Irish traditions) pointed out a notorious Loyalist BarThat bar there (the Hideout)was blown up many times by the IRA during the Troubles. Then he went on to say, If youre ever down and out and ready to end it all, and cash in your chips, go in that bar there and order a double Jameson, and youll find somebody in there to help you with your problem., There is no doubt that the Irish themselves know all about the Catholic Whiskey and the Protestant Whiskey. Jameson is the Catholic Whiskey, and Bushmills is the Protestant Whiskey., I met Noel Campbell owner of Bushmills he told me it does not matter what foot you you Wear your shoe on. But it was mentioned in passing at several rural pubs in co. Mayo and Sligo that Bushmills was loyalist swill, all in good fun Im sure but its not limited to plastic paddies. That was in fact untrue. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. Although some Protestants continued to make and sell alcohol, and many more consumed it, the pressure was . I became a Whiskey drinker a few years back now, and started with Jameson. I agree with Robert McHardy above. All Irish whiskey is great. Arthur Guinness was a Protestant and a Unionist. It was a big hit with my fellow pilgrims. Redbreast is wonderful, but spendy. as the visit was ending up with only 3 tiny plastic glasses half full. I came to mention Powers- it seems my work is done. Delicious. Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. But thats merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork Catholic country. Irish whiskey is only good for shots. lol. Generally, it is a little less expensive than Jameson. I am not trying to be offensive here, but really, it is just so dumb. I no longer consider myself Catholic, btw. What a great treat. What a treat. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. However, it is generally accepted that the catagory, as a whole, is spelt that way as well. The word "catholic" means "all-embracing," and the Catholic Church sees itself as the only . catholic - from the Greek adjective (katholikos), meaning "universal". top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. Oh, and as your average American that enjoys the brown, I contend that my enjoyment of scotch does not come at the expense of the Irish, Kentuckians, Tennesseeans or even Canadians! While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. Not all American or Irish whiskies spell the word with an elike Makers Mark, George Dickel, Old Forester, Early Times or Paddy spell the word w-h-i-s-k-y. This is part of a long standing agreement from the old IDL days. Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). Upon this one should decide which whiskey they prefer, and not upon any religous matter. In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. The Fair Employment Commission gave Bushmills a clean bill of health. Bushmills, which refused to hire Catholics for many years has been actively trying to recruit Catholic employees of late, because the pay a wee tax penalty for lack of diversity in their workforce. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. Still enjoy the Black Bush and the Bushmills 16yr. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle As the Protestants had pretty much a stranglehold over all shipping in the country, they refused to ship Dew in favor of the Protestant-produced Jameson. This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! So any Americans who believe this, should change to Murphys at once. Right. I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. Of course with these kind of things mud tends to stick and some Irish-Americans wouldnt let the facts get in the way of a good anti-British story. Redbreast IS great for sipping (especially for the price) and Powers Gold is fine too. When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. Get your facts right ! The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). Your grandfather may have lost friends back in the early 20th century to the Black & Tans and im sorry to hear that, but guess what? Not enough time to read through comments. First published on March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM. Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. Had drinks in the Irish Embassy (in Korea) as an invited Englishman. I think its alot worse than some backward hick town in yankeeville. Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. Prom_STar 9 yr. ago The Protestant/Catholic thing was explained to me as a labor dispute where a bunch of Catholic Derrymen were laid off from the Bushmills distillery or some shite. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. . Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. Car bombs, kidnappings, murders, protests, etc. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. Produced at Cooley for Sidney Frank, it appears to have been geared mainly for the American market. Usually King James Version. Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. Mmmm..Middleton distillery. Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. Multi-national corporations, of course, know no religious or other loyalty, except to the almighty dollar/pound/Euro. We intend to vigorously defend our position. Hi, I actually know the reason behind the controversy. Currently sipping on a Writers Tears neat & have two types of Teeling, The Irishman single malt, The Irishman Founders Reserve, a 12 y/o Redbreast, a GreenSpot single pot, a Powers John Lane Release, a Middleton Barry Crockett Legacy, a 12 y/o Jameson Special Reserve, & a Green Spot still to try. Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . William Riley, well said, man. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? 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